This alone would send a message and along with the news that an Ohio class arsenal boat is currently sunning of Cyprus when normally the whereabouts is secret says alot. Iran has already stepped up activities in the gulf region, recently attacked the UAE with drones from Yemen causing a few civilian casualties. As @RB has posted a lack of ASM is not high on the list of RNs priorities, whatever the reasons. UK and French jets team up against simulated aerial threat, Britain, Italy and Japan merge combat aircraft projects. I have little faith when the top brass commit to building frigates that have no ASW or AsUW capabilities. 210 comments about a decades old routine RN escort operation. Today : UK Navy Shocked, 7 Russian Warships off UK CoastNine Royal Navy warships are shadowing seven Russian warships after "unusually high levels of activit. To what end? I certainly do! I would have personally expected more from an accomplished person such as Merkel and her predecessors in making sure there is no reliance on anything from a potential enemy, but as the Germans can be smart, they can be equally daft. Something that clearly says were here, and were flying over Ukraine and you arent stopping us. If Biden was was standing up to Putin hed use some of that military grunt they have. You have to look at the bigger picture, Russia, China and the Iranians are holding joint exercises in the Indian ocean, increased naval activity in the Arctic, My biggest concern is India and Pakistan. EDIT spelling corrections. The talks between the two diplomats came just a day after Russia unveiled plans for naval drills involving more than 140 warships and more than 60 aircraft, seen as a show of strength. Prime Minister Boris Johnson said the British warship, which was travelling from the Ukrainian port of Odessa to the Georgian port of Batumi, was acting in accordance with the law and had been in international waters. return to the tri nations agreement of 1899!! If Russia did invade the Ukraine, could/would the UK and France deny Russia access through the channel? Regardless of whatever you think about climate change, Greta whinberg ensures anyone over 25 gets irritated by her patronising childish ways. I meant a small number combat troops postured to help the Ukranians defend themselves. Last night a senior defence source said: 'We strongly believe [Putin's] preference is for a full invasion rather than a limited offensive. 'Also, if he just occupies the eastern regions he will never be able to take back the whole of Ukraine because of the inevitable strengthening of Ukrainian forces in the remainder of the country in the aftermath. A Ministry of Defence Spokesperson told me: As part of a unified response with our allies, the Royal Navy are monitoring the presence of Russian Ships as they transit through the English Channel. At least Ukraine is on a democratic pathway! Their speed, range, persistence on station, sensors stealth and firepower make them the modern day battleships, only vastly more effective. On Monday, two C-17 transporters left the UK with 2,000 armour-piercing missile systems and soldiers to teach Ukraine's forces how to use them. The huge explosion at the military complex of Parchin, 30 kilometers southeast Tehran. Russian Navy ships can be seen in satellite imagery approaching the Ukrainian Coast. If a shooting war were to start, the Astutes would be at sea ready to start shooting, its what they are for, granted we dont have enough of them, a situation that wont be rectified until SSN(R) comes of the pipeline at the earliest. (A-591), was officially commissioned into service at Istanbul Shipyard in Tuzla, Istanbul, on 14 January, smail Demir, head of Turkeys Presidency of Defence Industries (SSB), has announced. If you were spending months in a bunker in a trench system in that climate I think it may well matter. Signalling to the Russian regime that we shall not tamely acquiesce should they escalate requires conventional hard power warships and aircraft as well as less conventional capabilities like cyber. Do you have a link on that drawdown, havent seen that comment before? My point still stands EFP is a deterrent/trip wire force to prevent Russia thinking she has an option to interfere in those countries. The 4.5 has the range, accuracy and stopping power to deal with that kind of threat. 14:30 GMT 20 Jan 2022. They believe Mr Putin's troops are being positioned in line with his new objective, with armoured divisions set to head into neighbouring Belarus on exercise but now stationed within striking distance of Kiev. I'm sure there will be no decision about [Ukraine] without [Ukraine],' he wrote. There is currently another Russian flotilla heading for the Med, this time the flagship cruiser and escort from their Pacific Fleet. Is funny that in America when Trump was President the media said he had made a secret deal with Putin but now that Biden is President and has verbally given Putin the OK to invade Ukraine the US media says nothing but how great Biden is. Iranians being bombed at will??? AnyRead more , Once again I must say that your assessment is spot on. 'I strongly, strongly hope that we can keep this on a diplomatic and peaceful path, but ultimately, that's going to be President Putin's decision.'. Commander Philip Harper, Severn's commanding officer, said: "In very challenging conditions with rough weather, Severn and several other British and allied ships have spent 20 days ensuring that Russian transiting warships remain under our watchful eyes.". Trump was right about Germany being too dependent upon Russian gas and some EU states not spending enough on defence. The Kremlin quickly denied it was preparing a provocation. An interesting question is how much does Kremlin insider Klyushin being in US custody have to do with the escalation? It comes at a time when Russia has sparked fears of all . I can see why you next comment was For starters. Russian warship with 'unstoppable' 7,000mph hypersonic missiles 'sails However, the MoD has failed to reveal which, if any, of the existing equipment programmes will be cut to reduce the funding gap. Complex rules of engagement, and a pretty good chance you wont hit the intended target. If the RN really wants anti ship missiles, we would get them. A very rugged and reliable ship, only 500 tons carrying capacity but their operation in Syria would not have been possible without the. There are only 4 sets available for the Type 45s taken off the Type 22 Batch 3s. Unlike the Ukrainians who are, in the main, suffering out in the trench systems with a serious number of dont want to be here conscripts. White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki warned of human rights violations and war crimes if diplomacy failed and the Russian government went ahead with its plans. Special Forces, or a couple of thousand US Marines or Paratroopers. The US CSG in the med training with Italy and Spain no doubt this is positioned close by aswell. More of your disinfo to correct here the US spends as much as the next 11 biggest spenders combined on defense nowadays not the rest of the world. I see a German Navy Chief had to resign tonight, for making pro Russian comments. They keep Russia's options open and therefore keep the defender guessing,' said Keir Giles, an Associate Fellow at Chatham House. (NATO will do nothing without US Support) Alternatively, NATO could station aircraft in Ukraine bordering countries and work with the Ukrainian AF to secure Ukraine airspace again daring Putin to attack NATO Aircraft. A capability upgrade as and when needed, might well happen. HMS Lancaster joined Severn tracking Steregushchiy-class corvette Boikiy in the Channel and using its Wildcat helicopter to gather intelligence. One can hope that cooler heads will prevail, and we start sorting ourselves out! Yes China has been throwing money at increasing the capabilities and sheer size of its military in it race to become the worlds dominant hyper-power. There are only two roads from Crimea that could be blocked or destroyed, a potential weakness, he said. Most of its armour is 25+ years old, its tube artillery is a similar age and is seriously out ranged by modern Russian systems and they have just announced a cut in numbers to about 75,000..! Will Stewart A longer-range version would also be welcome, Ive discussed the advantages short to medium term of NSM/JSM as well as Block V Tomahawk, particularly now that both Russia and China have joint interests in the North Atlantic. Its what happens after Russia invades that know one is sure about. This was at the request of the Australian Government. Ooops! It does not stop Russia interfering in/invading Ukraine. Any commander in defence now has Russian forces to the North, East, South and West; it could all get very tasty. You underestimate the Russian bear at your peril! He urged Putin to take 'the path of diplomacy and dialogue to try to resolvedifferences there are peacefully' hours after the Biden administration said it would provide an additional $200 million in defensive military aid to Ukraine in the face of Russian aggression. And the Russian surface fleet is still very much made up of 80s tech, that isnt very reliable. How does that relate to this story? Putin has huge domestic discontent for which the Ukraine crisis is a distraction. When we need European Allies like France and Germany, where are they. US Secretary of State Antony Blinken will meet Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Wednesday before holding talks with his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov in Geneva on Friday in the latest attempt to defuse the crisis. Should they choose to do so. The US Debt and How It Got So Big Updated December 30, 2021, https://www.thebalance.com/the-u-s-debt-and-how-it-got-so-big-3305778, i bet tyne sent shivers through the russian group. Tobias Ellwood said Russian President Vladimir Putin was taking full advantage of a weakened West. In an announcement on Monday, the agency said the surprise. Yep 100%. Thanks for that. Yes we cant come to Ukraines aid in any meaningful way but this should be it now as far as the Baltics are concerned- reinforce the fuck out of them so they know what surrounded really means and, I hate to say this but trump was right the Germans are useless spineless allies and they dont deserve the support they have now, relocate all forces to Poland and the Baltics where it really matters. Estimates of the numbers of new Russian troops moved closer to Ukraine vary from 60,000 to around 100,000, with a U.S. intelligence document suggesting that number could be ramped up to 175,000. Indeed you wouldnt need ships to eliminate those ducks as you wouldnt in the Dardanelles if they ever got in a pickle there either as Britain found out before the Gallipoli campaign became a hasty if equally ill fated alternative. The guided missile frigate Admiral Gorshkov has been. Russian warships seen acting unusually off Irish coast The RN has learned many lessons over the years, have a little faith. Most of these incidents were blamed by Iran on Israel. He wants to get some skin in the game like the West has had the past 20 years. But the figures arent as large as claimed andRead more . Type 23 frigate HMS Northumberland, based at Devonport, watched the movements of Udaloy-class destroyer the Vice-Admiral Kulakov as it sailed north-west of the Outer Hebrides. We are in a potentially high risk scenario all it takes is a trigger point. I apologize if you took offense with my tone, its not my normal voice. Russia is allied with Iran, need I say more. Times where unity is needed he takes EU presidency and is calling for the EU to do their own deal with Russia. When the world is fully and singularly looking at that location. Britain said Russia was giving an inaccurate account of the incident. You act like the US has nothing to prepare for or be cautious with and we can throw our weight around like Panama in 1989. The Coast Guard said the ship is . 'I am not ashamed to ask to help us with everything that is possible to avoid this war. All depends on how you define corruption but generally speaking most countries are corrupt at some or all levels us included. On 19 July 2020, another explosion hit a power plant in Isfahan Province. We need to re-evaluate our position in the world, step back, calculate the cost of the CASD add that amount to a Defence budget set at 3%. I think ill have a drink now. He wasnt kissing his backside so much when he scrapped the intermediate range nuclear forces treaty! A source familiar with the Russian Defence Ministry's thinking said this was the most likely scenario if Moscow decided to attack, but that he was unaware of any such decision. Biden is shaping up to be just as bad and hopefully another 1-term wonder. Spokesman Dmitry Peskov said the reporting was based on 'unfounded' information, according to the TASS news agency. Where do they and other countries replace it from? do you have the recipie for this distillery? George is on Twitter at @geoallison, Comments may automatically be held for moderation by our team, they will be approved as soon as possible in accordance with our. Find out more. HMSs Dragon and Defender never had Harpoon fitted. Irish defence forces have been monitoring the activity of Russian warships that on Tuesday made a U-turn off the country's coast. That calls a defense expert on the plan. Your logic makes no sense. If NSM is good enough for USN & Germany its good enough for RN. Russian warship with 'unstoppable' 7,000mph hypersonic missiles 'sails It can be logically assumed that KALIBR capability willRead more . Russian warship spotted miles from UK coast with hypersonic cruise We are no longer accepting comments on this article. T31 is being procured to a strict budget, to get these vessels built and in service pretty quick, and we can upgrade once in service if the need requires it, they are large, and will be a very flexible design allowing more kit to be integrated over the years. This is possible by the combination of an imaging infrared (IIR) seeker and an onboard target database. By Still better than a 4.5 gun. What sonar or anti submarine equipment will t31 possess? Almost all forms of sanctions being discussed have a greater blowback potential on both Europe and the US than their damage on Russia. Sean, Where is this wharf in Australia? The combat readiness of your fighting units degrade, morale becomes a problem and your armour becomes less effective as maintaince for war becomes a problem. It seems a good time to propose it in the commons. In Moscow, Russia summoned Ambassador Deborah Bronnert for a reprimand over what it said were Britain's "dangerous" action in the Black Sea - while foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova accused London of "barefaced lies". Not many decent investigative journos around now. Lots of disinformation out there I dont understand how Trump takes no blame on either side of the Atlantic for signing the peace deal with the Taliban of all groups but Biden blamed on this board with no push back. The Marshal Ustinov, a large cruise missile ship, is one of a. ', After their meeting, State Department spokesman Ned Price warned the West was ready to impose 'crippling costs on Russias economy' if Putin chooses the path of 'further aggression.'. As far as Im aware there isnt any part of the channel that is not either British or French waters. The seven Russian ships - two frigates, three corvettes and two landing ships - were initially tracked by HMS Tyne, an offshore patrol craft. We do need more ships and we will increase the number of frigates in the years to come. Putin is getting old and hybrid warfare is fruitful but getting boring. You talking Cobbers as usual! The Russian ships sheltered from bad weather within the Baie de Seine, Northern France, where Severn was joined by allied French navy ships and aircraft. Yep scapegoating the most powerful National leader in the world because his big stupid plan is tell the Russians he wont militarily defend the Ukraine. There are plenty of other tough choices we need to make in order to solve climate change, I know but what really gets my goat, are the people who whi ge about C C then drive their kids to school, in those bloody 44 SUVs and the School is within walking distance. why? Anti-air systems appear to be a weakness for Ukraine which might be something that the US should focusRead more . Critics fear it will increase Germany's reliance on Russian energy supplies. The ships have included a surfaced submarine, a destroyer, a corvette and a patrol ship along. Published: 8:51 ET, Jan 24 2023 A RUSSIAN warship armed with "unstoppable" hypersonic missiles is sailing towards the US coast in a show of strength, reports claim. H I Sutton 15 Mar 2022. Thanks for correction but my point was that in the UK he is of DEFENCE not DEFENSE-just trying to hold the line for Oxford English. I think youll find the Poles really ramping up, unlike us Brits who have more horses than tanks, the Poles have superannuated their winged hussars moumts and morphed onto modern MBTs. Rocks?' Western military analysts have suggested Russia cannot keep such troops deployed where they are indefinitely for financial and logistical reasons and would need to pull them back by summer. Russia said it had ventured as far as 3 km (2 miles) into Russian waters near Cape Fiolent, a landmark on Crimea's southern coast near the port of Sevastopol, headquarters of the Russian Navy's Black Sea fleet. And it will be forthcoming if I am wrong as I hope yours will be in reverse. As for unvaccinated drivers not being allowed to cross, well who wouldnt want to keep the chronically stupid out of their country? Just been channel hooping with various News outlets and what I can gather is that the Ukrainian public are just getting on normal Living , it would seem that the 24hr News channels are too blame for the So called tensions just like a certain plot for a James Bond movie with Johnathan Pryce as the TV mogul who wants too start a War for Ratings. A Slava Class cruiser isnt going to be worried by any Wildcat, whilst ROEs mean that by the time Astutes have surfaced to receive comms the shooting has started and finished. Ukraine didnt invent the weapons so im curious how much of them they could have used and ultimately maintained over time. Using it just to illustrate how the forward presence of US/Nato forces in Eastern Europe may or may not influence Russian decision making. I am generally centrist and an issues rather than party man and had high hopes for Biden. British Defence Minister Ben Wallace accused Russian pilots of conducting unsafe aircraft manoeuvres 500 feet (152 m) above the warship. Er, as infantry, I had all of 9 seconds according to the briefing table on the Majors desk reading down the list and RMP were given 36 hours; and the rest is history. Is not the opposite more true? The assessment, seen by CNN, described the situation as 'difficult' and warned Russian President Vladimir Putin was 'trying to split and weaken the European Union and NATO' while also 'limiting the capabilities of the United States to ensure security on the European continent'. Do you regard all the military and NHS etc senior people joining companies after they retire that they may well have helped gain orders as corruption? They would be very worried about Wildcat with Sea Venom & Martlet, and Merlin Mk2 with Stingray capability. Their fears of nuclear led them to basically willingly put puppet strings on a number of important decisions the country will have to make. Missile attacks would take advantage of Ukraine's weaker anti-missile defences. But more significantly, the conclusion was the Belgrano would have been pummelled by the sheer weight of accurate fire that both Blake and Tiger could put down. All vessels travelling through the Bosphorus have to book passage where a Turkish pilot will board to insure safe passage, that includes men of war irrespective of nationality. America last night warned the Kremlin of 'massive consequences' as its top diplomat flew to Europe for last-ditch talks aimed at averting war. Regime change? A Russian ship that's been off the coast of Hawaii for weeks is Forces would secure control of a canal that provided Crimea with fresh water supplies until Russia annexed the region and Ukraine stopped the flow, he said. The weakness is in Biden. The only time there is a difference, is when a SM is deep, sprinting to a new position. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Well done RN. . Chechen warlord 'seriously ill' but refuses to call Russian doctors I agree that its a risk, but one which they appear to be content to manage.. A distraction for poor ratings at home possibly. Or Major joining Carlisle, Osbornes 8 or so jobs, Miliband joining that charity or Blair on his 1M a year+ all for following the US line? That's why he wants to overthrow the government of Volodymyr Zelenskyj in Kyiv. Putin praised the ship's strength as it sailed off on its journey, saying: "The frigate Admiral Gorshkov is embarking on a long sea voyage. Power stations. Look what we did to help France in WW1/2. You guys need more ships me thinks . Reuters provides business, financial, national and international news to professionals via desktop terminals, the world's media organizations, industry events and directly to consumers. 'We're now at a stage where Russia could at any point launch an attack in Ukraine, and what Secretary Blinken is going to go do is highlight very clearly there is a diplomatic path forward. Hi mate. Several European nations have now moved to bolster Natos military deployment in eastern Europe. Which could be read either way. 36 minutes ago. If you mean why T26 isnt fitted with ASROC, then that has been explained at length by many other commentators, and with very good reason. LOL Ivan you really are poster boy for Putin . They attack a completely different country miles from that one? Britain said the shots were part of a Russian gunnery exercise. The Royal Navy has kept close watch as four Russian ships sheltered from rough weather in the seas off the east coast of Scotland. Is Harpoon totally ineffective against Russian ships or just a bit old? I am very much older than 25 and I find her far more grown up than most actual grown ups. And the balls to back up that posture with action if necessary. U.S. officials have said Russia might attack Ukraine as early as this month when the ground will be harder, making it easier for tanks and other armour to move swiftly. what about nato members bulgaria and romania? The SPEAR seems limited against a target like a ship. Push buttons. Certainly Ivan is getting very desperate now with the prop.! Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said the intelligence was 'very credible.'. The Armys flip ups on procurement have disengaged us from effective land ops in NATO context. With pressure to take a more hawkish stance, he met Nato Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg in Berlin to discuss the next steps. Tensions escalated at the end of last week after American officials claimed to have information that Moscow had deployed resources for a 'false flag' attack. Surface vessels Anti ship missiles are effectively back up. During its 2008 war with Georgia, Russia bristled at U.S. warships operating in the Black Sea, and in April the United States cancelled the deployment of two warships to the area. Spot on Johnathan, nothing beats the smell of Cordite when doing a spread or up ladder SU shoot. Lets be honest, in hostilities, they wouldnt be sailing unescorted or going through the channel! Screen for heightened risk individual and entities globally to help uncover hidden risks in business relationships and human networks. Our SSNs will be busy chasing their SSNs, and so each RN surface vessel should be capable of offensive action. TheRead more . 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A NATO coalition would see RN surface ships targeted first as the weakest AsUW link in the chain. "The U.S. Coast Guard is currently monitoring the Russian . Seizing southern Ukraine could cut Kyiv off from the coast and NATO's presence in the Black Sea, Melvin said, and could play well with Russian nationalists who see the area as the historic 'Novorossiya' lands or 'New Russia'. To all and intents you could be correct, but heres the rub he is a dictator in all but name. A Russian military ship armed with hypersonic missiles has sailed through the Strait of Dover, the narrowest part of the English Channel - only a few miles away from the English coast. 'Russia is stopped when it is stopped, not when Putin decided that he achieved enough.'. Can you see hot winded Macron or blustering Boris doing that? Who do you think signed the peace deal with the Taliban you delusional fool? The group thinkers on here have no idea of the N2 capabilities of RU and without AsUW the RN is in danger of being decimated before tea time. Yep, putting a heavy weight anti ship missile in a cruise ship would be the ultimate fuck up and hand a victory to Russia. I was considering calling them coffins but ill go with obsolete. Itll make Snatch Landrover fiasco look trivial. Why would Poles help Ukrainians? But why would Russia deployed troops in Iraq 2003 to save Despot Sadams skin? Without OHT you are randomly chucking missiles out down a bearing and hoping the target is somewhere within the seeker head basket for the terminal homing. This is a US created crisis for US domestic reasons. Biden??? Russian forces could expand the fighting in Donbass to draw Ukraine into a conventional conflict, said Neil Melvin, director of International Security Studies at the RUSI think-tank in London. Broker a deal to have Russian military bases in their country. But the Ukrainian ambassador to the UK, Vadym Prystaiko, called on extra help from Western powers. Saying your putting your entire navy to sea simultaneously across every theatre you operate in is a bit of a red flag.. though considering the state of the Russian navy if even 25% of the ships leave harbour I will be surprised. Several missiles now fit the bill, but you still need to get round the issue of targeting information before you send it/them on their way. Their Intel also saying that they see no particular problem. Really poor analysis of a foreign state. Thats what I was thinking, but invading Ukraine probably isnt allowed under international law. It seems Not! Thanks Mark it just seems that the way that some outlets are reporting this ongoing story ,could in fact do more damage than good .As with some people on these threads ,that are goading eachother into what better weapons would do the most damage ,when the most destructive weapon is their Mouse/keyboard I know its just keyboard banter but my God theres some who really do want it too kick off. Time to send some Astutes to the Med for target practice! Ukrainian Defense Ministry's latest intelligence assessment yesterday warned Russia had massed more than 127,000 troops along the border, together with a sea and air component that marked a 'full strength' force.
