Especially if the buyer asks to change something in the configuration of models or to clarify details. I can see how 3D modeling and 3D printing can be connected, but even that has to have a clear border for the customer. CGTrader is extremely accessible, perhaps too much so for its own good in some lights. I posted my first model today and have to say it was a very pleasant experience. i guess both have different orientationone is cg and one is 3d printing oriented. If I am searching for a 3D model, I am not interested in 3D printing services, and vice versa. http://content.screencast.com/users/Lenwe/folders/Default/media/96a1c5f2-d18b-4e5c-ab3c-01bd5189b9ca/TurboSquid_Monopoly.png Personally, I felt I in no way infringed on said IP. This site is bloated with 3D print ready models, crap models and "adult content / i cant see it". For myself, long live CGTrader and may they keep their principles as they grow. Such an arrogant attitude. Turbosquid is butt ugly and greedy, I hope when CG gets bigger than TS, they don't end up the same way. They then review the model and contact seller to fix it. More specifically, the 3D Model may not be exported or sold. User experience and User interface is much better to manage your store, and higher royalty. Most of the Ts artists also moved their work over here and almost everyone knows that, just not the ones hoe are exclusive, it's not going to take too long now before they systematically start breaking the exclusive contract when they see sales going down every month and things going up over here. Im convinced now that when I would reactivate my Ts account I will just have a bit less sales here and get some sales over there, could be wrong but I don't care, 60% cut is ridicules and on top of that price guarantee is just total madness. Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. In something limonadinis says is true, but I agree with tomislavveg. [/quote] Each sold model you can find anyone time in a download center. I hope someone someday will take the concept behind old cgtrader A good ref point is that your average laptop with Dual Pentium 2 gigahertz processor 8 GB of ram will start having issues when running over 200,000 polygons. You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. I ended up terminating my account, seeing as I couldn't operate the store under such conditions - not only did I risk having the work I'd put in uploading items undone at any moment, I also had no idea what pitfalls I had to avoid to not have items taken down. "google8":www.google.com, google10 https://garagedoorrepairnewportnews.com/garage-door-spring-repair/, Hey, royalty scale you work up on is all very cool the fact you can print here sell files here and stream files all on one listing CG TRADER FOR THE WIN!!! I think we just need so some massive killer models of epic proportions that the 3D modeling community cant ignore. I'm even considering seriously closing my store here. In my personal opinion TS is working very hard towards buyers and exploits sellers as much as they can, well except few chosen ones, while CGT is taking great care about sellers, but leaving buyers somewhat aside. I really enjoy the chance to get to know other people's opinions and experiences regarding how they sell, network and do business and that is something I have only been able to do here on CGT. I tested the CGTrader rigged character morphs for Daz3D studio from your commission and it works like a charm! Please let us know if you have any feedback. When I started on cgtrader I had more sales than on TS. Currently on a tight budget, would lose a substantial cut to pay for software licenses and hardware. A: TurboS*swearword-here* will start to DOWNTICK PRICES to match them to "other selling sites" on customer complaint, so I will remove every model they demand for down-adjustment, and I'm sure I won't be alone in this. And also because of the complete isolation of the seller-buyer. However, we have detected that you have set your prices back numerous times after we have made appropriate changes. Saied this couple of times in the past, leverage the difference in royalty to provide a slightly better offer over here, otherwise customers hoe have a Ts account will see no need to make one here to buy same model for same price. In 2020, I've opened a CGT account and start selling interesting 3D Models. 5. By subscribing you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use. this issue frequently occurs when a seller wants to break a competitor. CGtrader website is much bather coded and it just need some time to get on top. So the wonderful conversion work/time spend of this individual could have helped him to get a complete refund, and the two others, (hoe I have send off here) would also have been helped whit a nice maya file, and I would have sold at least two more models (Everyone would benefit). TurboSquid is not a company that practices any kind of #FairBusiness, and there is many other cases from other people stating the same for different reasons: Yes, at this point the level of sales of the TS is higher than the CGTrader and TS has a more flexible search system. And some may post a part of a set, and ad a link to the complete set, others may just do it to spread their work and name, etc. i think modeli unique and has need to be bought depend on the buyers not the seller The product team is reviewing your comments and this is something we will definitely work on. But if you are on Turbosquid as an exclusive sale (models will be sold only on the website TurboSquid), Cgtrader can lose and this position, in favor of TS Important detail : CGTrader allows communication between customers and sellers ! Why should the artist suffer? We want to improve the site not make it worse :). I do agree with you regarding the search engine. @interate CGI . TS going down. Prices do not include additional fees, such as shipping . They could put down an amount between 1 to 5 bucks as a deposit and after sampling the model as you suggested they could deduct that amount from the final sale. Any more than 500,000 polygons in one scene and that will make opening and closing it a really long process not to mention that if you trying to animate something in the scene you may have to keep hiding things in various layers or create the animation in a separate one. I sell my shipping container which is professional model according to my buyers reviews . [google7|http://www.google.com] What insane kind of practice is that, who owns the work then? Because of its design and trade/royalty system, CGTrader seems better and more advantageous, but at the end of the day, I get much more income from Turbosquid and The3Dstudio. (e.g. there is low quality traffic on cgtrader and also became too much focused on 3d printing models so gets affordable if u have many low quality printable models of cheap prices. disavantages: low budget clients willing to get low quality models for 5$. If that is the case then better not to become exclusive! You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. From moment I have enough things to sell here, I would come clean with myself and close my TS account with great pleasure. Considering it as a seller, CGtrader is NOT better because I have almost no sales at all while I have about 10 sales every month on TS. In response to your comments kanga, I would like to add this to the conversation. I left all but . But Also Turbosquid actively promotes models on their site with the use o. I like, CG Trader is ascent. My friend didn't get any support. They don't allow you to communicate with the customer, with Turbosquid support acting as a "human firewall" (and a bad one) that is constantly supervising every interaction to ensure that Turbosquid always gets the best outcome (and neither the seller nor the customer). :). What I mean is CGt isn't rely making products, it is offering a sales platform and leaves the problem salving involving product issues (between sellers and buyers) to the product developers themselves (in theory) and in doing so minimizing/reducing overhead in sales. [http://www.google.com google5 ] I do agree with you regarding the search engine. Logout from your account and go to CGTrader home page. Search Filter Free products only Discount Formats Free products only Reset filters Free If you think life is hard as a buyer you should try modeling for a living Making any money is a truly miserable experience. Animated Camel 3D Model 13. Toys (212) Buy or download free 3D models for your CG projects, film and video production, animation, visualizations, games, VR/AR, and others. I'm really happy to see CGTrader growing. They can present the model screenshots straight from their helpdesk and ensure the client is not being screwed? https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/industrial/other/shipping-container--4. There is plenty of "undercutters" everywhere and some short-sighted content developers that seem to only care about quick cash-grabs and most of the time doesn't even have enough data to state a valid opinion based on the contrast of facts over medium-long periods of time. Think about the kind of treatment you can expect from these soulless corporate hacks once they can play their monopoly game again. Payout fees are just fractions of percent, not worth to consider. In my country you have to be adult to do bussines and legal stuff. If you look at the traffic statistics, TS ranks around 9k top sites, and CGT at around 42k, so obviously, people buy more at TS not because they want to spoil the sellers, but rather because they don't come to CGTrader enough and their first place to search is TS. When a buyer leaves a bad rating for a lame reason , TS investigate and contact the buyer and if he doesn't give a serious explanation, I hope ideas of exclusivity get replaced by inclusive ones all over the globe. I think CG Trader should remain working with printing, however, it's main concern should be CG :D, I would opt for a system that integrates different stores each with its own label/trademark placed under one common trademark (for sake of organization and readability), CGtraders main trademark would then function as a placeholder/main hub for many different sub stores. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/cgtrader.com, https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/exterior/landmark/notre-dame-de-paris-cathedral-61d97afb1b1a62861673c23f15b75c12, https://www.facebook.com/ActiveKetoGummiesAustraliaWebsite. I hope it goes well for cgtrader i really like this page :-). Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. Turbosquid just has it backwards. Think about your future: Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points. [link="http://www.google.com"]google1[/link] Just my fifty cents. It still remains a puzzle to me, were those few now actually using their CGt account because there was no other way or did I just lose those and just gained some new clients from somewhere ells? In my experience often times a client will ask for certain models but then one must take into consideration what computer specs they have because you don't want your client to get frustrated with the models you buy. Having too many high poly models in 1 scene can considerably slow down rendering times, work flow and even crash your computer making the entire scene unusable. Hello. Turbosquid is basically a pyramid scheme for the most part unless you are established and have been in the top rank for many years. So in this case you could say we are the asses and there's lots of us so we form a huge ass and CGt can place many chairs for us to sit on ;-) Change Method. Ebay and Amazon would be great for the cartoony non realistic stuff as well as 3D prints so long as people make sure to document the files appropriately and let people know it is 3D and not real. CGtrader delivers the best basic structure to bring fort this new and healthy next gen market place. I think posting links to showcase your model in an animation or to show how a rig works is extremely advantageous. I remember that too! Gritsuk : Hello Friends, glad to present you my model Female Hand Realistic. In my opinion, the worst Turbosquid is doing is minimizing the role and presence of the real content creators, being just a middleman reseller but trying to control all aspects of the product in a way that in the end the customer perceives it more like a "Turbosquid product" than a "Content-creator-X product". I have noticed that a lot of artists are moving to Asia to find jobs where they are far better respected and paid what they are worth. Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, + blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). You can change your subscription preferences at any time in the account settings. Adult Female Jessy Rigged 3D Model 9. But hey thats your call, That's sad, but true. although, the 3d printing industry is growing rapidly :D. I have to agree. Prices are only guaranteed at the time of the creation of this document. This is a photorealistic high-quality 3D full-body scan female character, rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, max blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, City People x500 Static Poses Lowpoly ArchViz, 20x LOW POLY CASUAL ELEGANT SITTING WOMAN MAN PEOPLE CROWD, Realistic White Male and Female Head Bundle. The age of 3D models is over and people have moved on to 3D printing. It's true. I had a conversation with Eduardas he confirmed that they will improve the feedback system. I hope I'll have better selling results there. That's how they won and that is how you succeed in business. http://content.screencast.com/users/Lenwe/folders/Default/media/d7b76144-43db-4cbe-b27b-8ea42b3a7cb0/TurboSquid_Low_Sales.png You know what is cgtrader but as firstcomer you must have strong impression that this is 3d printing site where you can buy new 3d printed iphone case which will be shipped to you. The motivation to backlink and make marketing efforts for the own store (and the collective trademark ad the same time) would probable also increase. We've been there, even being "Squid Guild exclusive" for some time to test the experience ourselves for real, and after more than 10 years with all our experiences and stats in hand we can state without a doubt that the business model offered by Turbosquid doesn't pay off in the mid-long term. Same with copyright infringements, same with low quality models (a friend of mine bought recently a model here, which was supposed to be .OBJ compatible : but the seller had just exported the obj from its original program, without even editing the mtl file to have the textures loaded automatically ! I've often (not just at this site) downloaded "free" items to verify their quality before purchasing models from a vendorI had problems with 3-4 of the "free" items I looked at first here (having no idea there was a limit), and now I can download no more. cgtrader is far better than turbosquid in my opinion coz cgtrader offer 80% royalti payment and turbo only give you 40% royalti payment which is sad. Dude, I have from 500$ a month at SGtride and i don't feed fat Turbosquid bastards. I'd rather look into ways to create my own site, cause it's a bit tedious to sift through neverending site rules from neverending projects. Work directly with a 3D artist for your project. My price at the time was same both on Ts as on CGt but after some time position on CGt got better and sales was picking up. The response back was, if they are not adjusted end of the week then we will adjust them. Yeah nasty stuff, but hey, I better shut up because I'm one of the hypocrites that keeps supporting that place by having my work on it. @IterateCGI These are great ideas and in fact we are currently working on one campaign that will involve the community to help market CGTrader better. You are just providing a platform." https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/character/woman/female-hand-realistic https://www . . What I read on different forums seems obvious, exclusivity no longer pays. "TurboSquid Support, Jun 20, 08:14 SST: I am going to start a list to promote artists who are making great models but just aren't getting the views. I have to agree with Limonadinis on this without a good search engine function we loose many clients to Turbosquid. We left TS account and getting occasional spam regarding the prices from them. What this shows is their weakness. I guess CGTrader should send out advertising to the companies, but I'm sure they are doing/done it already. TS has terrible support, i had stupid responses from them during my interaction with them. Payment Method I removed all products from TS. There are currently no models in your cart. They often would ask me to just send them a model through email and pay me through paypal like in the old days. I tested it with golden palace, clothing and various hair, other textures, they all worked fine August 22, 2022 at 6:03 am #1859211 Sabrina Participant Rank: @Goblyn Glad you enjoy it! The first thing you see is almost only 3D printing assets. I will very much want to peruse. On Ts we get served for extreme large cost and rather badly frankly said. They say you can price things anyway you want but then they take down your models if they do not agree with how you price them. @skifx, @made21, my royalty rate is 80% and i earn from each sale from 72% to 77% depending on the model's price - the pricier the model is, the lesser payment processing fee gets. That basically says paying customers aren't allowed access to supposedly "free" items. I can't imagine that competing sellers would go for such things as you described, but who knows, there are plenty nuts all around :]. If you have any questions about these. Royalty rate of CGTrader allows the seller to make a model cheaper than on TurboSquid. Both are still growing, but it seems CGtrader is growing much more. Since then, I think the design has gotten much better, especially the separation between regular CG and 3D print, and the search algorithm seems also to be much more efficient. So even if TS takes 60%, I still make better profit there because here I get 94% of nothing. Money in short term does not always pay of in long run. Exclusivity to any marketplace has been proved a revenue loss. He bought a cheap product (with a fake account) and post a bad rating. Ebay it's ALL about direct seller/customer relationship. Say you happen to be a great render and lighting specialist but not so well a modeler, you see this nice models that have potential but the presentation is very bad (from good modeler with no render skills). I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. We've been on TS over 20 years and on CG trader since their start. Founded in 2000, Turbosquid has championed growth in the 3D space through partnerships with leaders in the industry. Nice try. I think there needs to be a more valued motivation ($) in order to get people rank in great numbers consistently. We can help here by simple putting the links to our work on our social media. Yes you are right Zet! All because of search. That takes longer time. We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. Having too many high poly models in 1 scene can considerably slow down rendering times, work flow and even crash your computer making the entire scene unusable. Well, after a long search, I found a negative point from CGTrader compared to TS. Recently I've been trying to contact my old clients and buyers and although they still have an interest in my models they don't quite trust CGT with their money. So then people can actually customize and make cool toys and sell them on there. My sales are not still on par with TS, but I haven't published new models for quite some time, because I only have time to create models to enter challenges from time to time. Yes indeed! You can download any 3d model in all popular 3d formats including MAX, OBJ, FBX, 3DS, STL, C4D, BLEND, MAYA and other. The very best thing I find on CGT is the disponibility of the team. This is hight quality female model with animation friendly topology. I could go on and on, it kept me puzzled. http://rebloggy.com/post/art-copyright-turbosquid-infringement-kouotsu-ip-theft-kouotsu/34732573054 In fact, 61% comes out against 40%, since the paypal commission on cgtrader is borne by the seller, the site pays commission on turbosquid. That is true, but im talking if buyer is already familiar with existence of CGTrader, he can reap all the benefits then. Their only flaws are the lack of publicity and their search engine. I imagine a totally different mentality is going on in the Ts room, where top talents probably just like to leave the building because a few individuals like to keep things in check (you know like in the old top down pyramidal structured way). Brittney So true! Besides how about your right to fair trade? It's an example of waste of human recourses and time, because how many more are performing this same conversion work without telling? I had hoped that CGTrader would want to be the kings but i have to be honest if you licence a thing only here you have to own it forever, as you cannot sell that licence. what you say doesn't make any sense because CGTrader has a 100 percent guarantee return policy on all models as far as I know. Others download beautiful jpeg or tiff files to set as their desktop wallpapers at the office. CGtrader might have better conditions, rules and everything but it's useless if it doesn't attract more buyers. A very interesting idea about the stores and collections. Then came price guarantee on Ts and now I had a problem, the part I was now successfully serving on CGt I would not want to risk losing back to Ts, nor would I want to lose those few that kept buying my higher priced models there. Think about the best online stores today when people search for lamps on Amazon they will only find lamps in their search and that is why they keep buying on Amazon because it is a highly efficient and professional site where the buyers don't get lost or frustrated looking for what they want and can spend their time searching for the best quality product based on their budget. How about all products here have no restriction Google search.etc. Payment Method Please don't get impression that i'm trying to bash CGT, i don't i favor CGT over TS any day, but i want that they up their game in this concurent buisness. I'm done with them. To me this was a sign that people know about CGt and that users have at least two accounts. Alhamdulillah, we finished making the car! You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. In fact my sells on TS are actually going down while they go up on CGt. (I prefer not to learn/spent time to handle all the different 3D applications and conversions) Send of two customers so far (here on CGt), hoe asked for a maya version of this model. A own store where you can fill your offers with stuff found in the large pool would account for a thumbs up for the people hoes products get placed in those stores. I started uploading some of my items to cg trader to see if it generated any income but as I have 70+ items and 0 sales I have decided to stop. They also have multiple sellers selling the same products so that it is easier for people to avoid people paying for shipping in their country. Sales site defending exclusivity trying to find ways to seduce (like the famous CheckMate) but this has no return. Over the years they have shown me that they really care about we think about the way things should be run and they have been adapting the website based on our combined ideas. I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. TurboSquid be avoided guys! It is pretty awesome!!! If you're searching for a regular model, you have to click on the little icon "CG models", but nothing changes on the page when you do so. They should make more effort to advertise. No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. @Supercigale, this is worrying to read, i think such things shouldn't happen. You could say CGt is a service platform that harbors and connects sellers and buyers of specific digital goods, in theory there's no limit to how much people and their digital products/services they could connect. Agree with every word. Thor (Rig) for Maya 15. I was 2 times victim of credit card fraud on Ts, never happened on CGt so far.
